Quality issues.
Moderators: William Anderson, letumgo
-
- Posts: 2195
- Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:11 am
Quality issues.
I was very disappointed today when I received the worst hare's mask I've ever seen. It was also the first mask not coming from Europe. It was a Grade #1 Dyed Gold Hareline Dubbin with half the animal still attached to the flesh side of the mask, dirty, dirty and with a lot of fur missing. I will never buy a natural product from them again.
Could there be such a difference between Europe and America? I have bought from England, Ireland, Romania and Scotland - dyed and natural - and none of these has been anything but superiour.
This reminded me of a post by Ray (letumgo) where he said he had some not so good masks (I had posted about washing, drying, velcroing and "cupping" a dyed mask).
I liked the colour though.
dd
Could there be such a difference between Europe and America? I have bought from England, Ireland, Romania and Scotland - dyed and natural - and none of these has been anything but superiour.
This reminded me of a post by Ray (letumgo) where he said he had some not so good masks (I had posted about washing, drying, velcroing and "cupping" a dyed mask).
I liked the colour though.
dd
- Soft-hackle
- Site Admin
- Posts: 1874
- Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:23 am
- Location: Wellsville, NY
Re: Quality issues.
dd,
I've purchased masks from Hareline and found them very good. I don't know why yours is not. I'll say all of the masks I've purchased, here, stateside, have been quite good. I'd contact who you purchased from and tell them of your dissatisfaction. Most places would not risk losing a customer.
Mark
I've purchased masks from Hareline and found them very good. I don't know why yours is not. I'll say all of the masks I've purchased, here, stateside, have been quite good. I'd contact who you purchased from and tell them of your dissatisfaction. Most places would not risk losing a customer.
Mark
"I have the highest respect for the skilled wet-fly fisherman, as he has mastered an art of very great difficulty.” Edward R. Hewitt
http://www.libstudio.com/FS&S
http://www.libstudio.com/FS&S
Re: Quality issues.
I've noticed that the quality on Hareline rabbit faces (this is what my wife calls them) varies significantly, from marginal to excellent. I'd suggest doing what Mark says ... complain to somebody. Maybe even an e-mail to Hareline. I've learned over the years that buying natural materials by mail is sometimes risky unless you know somebody on the other end.
Some of the same morons who throw their trash around in National parks also vote. That alone would explain the state of American politics. ~ John Gierach, "Still Life with Brook Trout"
Re: Quality issues.
I have found the masks from hare line, for the most part, good quality for dyed hare. However, for natural, you can't beat a European mask which I think are superior in color and texture. I'm a pawer. I like to paw through materials first hand especially for natural materials.
I hate it when I think I'm buying organic vegetables, and when I get home I discover they are just regular donuts.
http://www.oldhatflytying.com
http://www.oldhatflytying.com
- hankaye
- Posts: 6582
- Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:59 pm
- Location: Arrey, N.M. aka 32°52'37.63"N, 107°18'54.18"W
Re: Quality issues.
dd, Howdy;
Take some photos and send them to Hareline and ask them if this is their defination of a Quality product.
Did a quick Google and this is from their (Hareline's site);
"If you are a consumer and have any questions regarding our products please feel free to e-mail us and we will do our best to reply in a very timely fashion."
hareline@hareline.com"
Good Luck
hank
Take some photos and send them to Hareline and ask them if this is their defination of a Quality product.
Did a quick Google and this is from their (Hareline's site);
"If you are a consumer and have any questions regarding our products please feel free to e-mail us and we will do our best to reply in a very timely fashion."
hareline@hareline.com"
Good Luck
hank
Striving for a less complicated life since 1949...
"Every day I beat my own previous record for number
of consecutive days I've stayed alive." George Carlin
"Every day I beat my own previous record for number
of consecutive days I've stayed alive." George Carlin
- willowhead
- Posts: 4465
- Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:35 pm
- Location: Roscoe, N.Y./Lakeview, Arkansas
- Contact:
Re: Quality issues.
Absolutely pitch a bitch.....they'll take care of you......long as you remember, it's not what you do, but how you do it. 

Learn to see with your ears and hear with your eyes
CAUSE, it don't mean a thing, if it aint got that swing.....
http://www.pureartflytying.ning.com
CAUSE, it don't mean a thing, if it aint got that swing.....
http://www.pureartflytying.ning.com
- letumgo
- Site Admin
- Posts: 13346
- Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:55 pm
- Location: Buffalo, New York
- Contact:
Re: Quality issues.
When I have had issues with materials purchased on-line, I have followed up with an E-mail politely explaining the quality problem/defect with the material in question. I also include a photograph of the material in question to help illustrate the issue. In every single case, the seller has replaced the item at no extra cost to me. Once they hear that there is an issue, they almost always send out a replacement item the next day. So, yes, I agree that you should complain to the seller. But I would suggest doing it in a respectful manner. That alone will usually get their attention and get you the service you want...
just my two cents...
just my two cents...
Ray (letumgo)----<°))))))><
http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php? ... er=letumgo
"The world is perfect. Appreciate the details." - Dean
http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php? ... er=letumgo
"The world is perfect. Appreciate the details." - Dean
-
- Posts: 2195
- Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:11 am
Re: Quality issues.
Thank you for your support and advise. I would never be anything but polite if making a complaint - no matter what. This time I just kept what was useable and discarded the rest. Lesson learnt and no big deal. I was thinking of Johnno and that gave me perspective.
dd
dd
- willowhead
- Posts: 4465
- Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:35 pm
- Location: Roscoe, N.Y./Lakeview, Arkansas
- Contact:
Re: Quality issues.
Smart man.......insightful and wise. Good reminder to all.....that it's always later than you think. 

Learn to see with your ears and hear with your eyes
CAUSE, it don't mean a thing, if it aint got that swing.....
http://www.pureartflytying.ning.com
CAUSE, it don't mean a thing, if it aint got that swing.....
http://www.pureartflytying.ning.com
-
- Site Admin
- Posts: 334
- Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:05 pm
- Location: West Yellowstone, Montana
- Contact:
Re: Quality issues.
dd,
Sounds like you got a bad one. Hare Line product is very good and getting an inferior product is VERY rare.
Jim
Sounds like you got a bad one. Hare Line product is very good and getting an inferior product is VERY rare.
Jim