Nellie B

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Nellie B

Postby Soft-hackle » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:07 pm

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Nellie B

Hook: Standard Wet Fly 12-16
Thread: Tan Uni thread 8/0
Hackle: Medium Ginger hen
Body: Overlapped rabbit dubbing-gray toward tail, black toward the front-on gray silk by the Leisenring method.
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Re: Nellie B

Postby letumgo » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:26 pm

Really digging the mixed body flies, Mark. Great flies.
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Re: Nellie B

Postby Ruard » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:23 am

Hi Mark, you must have been bussy last days making five or six such beatiful flies. I like them. could you tell me something about the Leisenring method you use?

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Re: Nellie B

Postby William Anderson » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:57 am

ditto what Ray said. very impressive.
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Re: Nellie B

Postby Soft-hackle » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:44 pm

Hi Ruard,
Yes, check the link.

http://www.libstudio.com/Leisenring

This is a method Leisenring and Hidy used, but there is also a dubbing block created by Dick Clark, a Leisenring student.

I use the method below, which does a great job.

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Re: Nellie B

Postby DOUGSDEN » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:50 pm

MARK & RUARD,
I TOO HAVE BEEN NOTICING THE "LEISENRING METHOD" IN YOUR POST BUT HAD TOTALLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT THIS METHOD OF MAKING A FLYMPH BODY. AND THANK YOU RUARD FOR ASKING TOO! I HAVE A COPY OF DAVE HUGHES BOOK "WET FLIES". HE DOES A GREAT JOB IN TAKING THE READER THRU THE METHOD OF SPINNING A FLYMPH BODY AND EVEN GIVES DIRECTIONS FOR MAKING THE SPINNING BLOCK OUT OF PINE AND BRADS AND SUCH. THEN HE GOES DIRECTLY INTO AN "ALTERNATIVE" METHOD WHERE HE SPINS THE FUR ONTO THE THREAD IN A DUBBING LOOP AND THAT'S WHERE I STAND I GUESS. I HAVE FOR THE MOST PART DONE THE DUBBING LOOP THING. I KEEP TELLING MYSELF THAT I AM GOING TO MAKE A BLOCK (OR FOLLOW YOUR LEAD WITH THE ARTIST MATS, ETC.) DURING THE WINTER MONTHS BUT I NEVER HAVE. THE LEISENRING METHOD DUBS DIFFERENTLY. THIS I KNOW AND A FINER DUBBING JOB IS THE END RESULT. YOU HAVE INSPIRED ME TO TRY THIS ALMOST LOST METHOD OF DUBBING. WOOD SHOP HERE I COME!
TOWARDS BETTER LOOKING PATTERNS, THANKS MARK!
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Re: Nellie B

Postby Soft-hackle » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:19 pm

DOUGSDEN,
I'm sure I'll get some disagreement, however I believe that spinning in a dubbing loop might be similar, however I like the result and control the Leisenring method gives me. It might be a bit more time consuming, But I truly like the result much more. It may be just a matter of preference, but I see something in this method I don't get in a dubbing loop.

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Re: Nellie B

Postby dafunk5446 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:16 pm

I agree with Mark, using the dubbing block is the way to go, it is more time consuming but you can really bust them out once you get going. I actually use a dubbing brush machine I built. Very similar to the dubbing block, only difference is it's bigger (14" long) and I frankenstiened an old house fan motor onto it then spliced a rheostat to control the motors speed. I also use ultrawire to spin with, but basically the same thing.
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Re: Nellie B

Postby dafunk5446 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:19 pm

Mike wrote:
Soft-hackle wrote:DOUGSDEN,
I'm sure I'll get some disagreement, however I believe that spinning in a dubbing loop on might be similar, however I like the result and control the Leisenring method gives me. It might be a bit more time consuming, But I truly like the result much more. It may be just a matter of preference, but I see something in this method I don't get in a dubbing loop.

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Hmmmm..........not disagreement as such, but what you describe is a dubbing loop. Where or how one does it is largely immaterial. Depends on what you are used to, and what you wish to achieve.

( I'm in a "bolshie" mood, just got back from a fly-dressing class! Main problem was , all my pupils wanted to learn "flytying" or something like that............. :)


Yes the Leisenring dubbing block is just a dubbing loop, only difference is it is done off the fly in a preformed, more controlled manor.
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Re: Nellie B

Postby Soft-hackle » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:40 pm

Hi Again,
One advantage of dubbing via Leisenring is you can make the bodies up ahead of time, store them on cards, and use when needed.

Mike, I've tried dubbing loops tied on the fly, but for some reason, I see a fine difference between the two methods. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is something about using Leisenring's technique that is different in the result. I do not know if it matters in the effectiveness of the fly-perhaps it does, perhaps it does not.

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