Mean looking hook.

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Mean looking hook.

Post by daringduffer » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:59 am

This is a hook that screams business. Kamasan B911 eyed, barbless, wide drop gape, swept needle point. I've tied twenty flies size 14 and and twenty size 16 and just ordered 50 more. It's a coarse fishing hook for carp and such. Nice alternative to Daiichi 1640. It seems robust and dangerous...

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Re: Mean looking hook.

Post by letumgo » Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:05 pm

Great hook, dd. I think this would also make a terrific hook for tube flies (straight eye - wide gap) in the larger sizes (sizes 2, 4 and 6 would be perfect). I need to keep an eye open for these. Always nice to have options.
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Re: Mean looking hook.

Post by narcodog » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:32 pm

That looks like a Daiichi 1250
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Re: Mean looking hook.

Post by daringduffer » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:05 pm

narcodog wrote:That looks like a Daiichi 1250
Maybe, but not if you take a closer look. Shank length, bend and eye differ.

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Re: Mean looking hook.

Post by willowhead » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:52 am

Very cool lookin' hook indeed. ;)
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Re: Mean looking hook.

Post by William Anderson » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:33 am

lets see the flies. This is a good looking hook. I like the wide gape and odd bend. curious to see how the flies turned out.

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Re: Mean looking hook.

Post by Jerry G » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:49 am

daringduffer wrote:This is a hook that screams business. Kamasan B911 eyed, barbless, wide drop gape, swept needle point. I've tied twenty flies size 14 and and twenty size 16 and just ordered 50 more. It's a coarse fishing hook for carp and such. Nice alternative to Daiichi 1640. It seems robust and dangerous...

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I have wondered about this ever since seeing some of the first hooks with exceptionally long needle sharp points and toting the wide gape. We here in the states practice a lot of catch and release with the thought in mind to release that trout so that it can live on and also provide pleasure for yet another angler. It would at least seem to me in using these hooks the potential to send one of these hook points into the brain of a trout becomes much more likely than with using the old stand-by that was good enough for years. Are we perhaps getting carried away with our need to bring a fish to hand while catering to the thought that we are fishing a barbless hook?

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Re: Mean looking hook.

Post by willowhead » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:31 am

Good question Jerry.....VERY good. For me.....when i c a hook i like the looks of a lot, it has nothing to do with fishing.......it's purely asthetic. All i c is a cool canvas.........but your question is worth thinking about very seriously, especially by anyone who has a "need to bring a fish to hand." There are worser Joneses in this world.......but i think i'd have to agree (without assumming anything), with you that for fishing.....a simple, much less potentially lethal, hook would be better. ;)
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Re: Mean looking hook.

Post by daringduffer » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:01 pm

Jerry G wrote:
daringduffer wrote:This is a hook that screams business. Kamasan B911 eyed, barbless, wide drop gape, swept needle point. I've tied twenty flies size 14 and and twenty size 16 and just ordered 50 more. It's a coarse fishing hook for carp and such. Nice alternative to Daiichi 1640. It seems robust and dangerous...

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I have wondered about this ever since seeing some of the first hooks with exceptionally long needle sharp points and toting the wide gape. We here in the states practice a lot of catch and release with the thought in mind to release that trout so that it can live on and also provide pleasure for yet another angler. It would at least seem to me in using these hooks the potential to send one of these hook points into the brain of a trout becomes much more likely than with using the old stand-by that was good enough for years. Are we perhaps getting carried away with our need to bring a fish to hand while catering to the thought that we are fishing a barbless hook?

Regards, Jerry
Jerry,

Your question is worth consideration. I, and my friends, also practise c&r. The only hook that has been a problem to me, and which I have abandoned, is the longshank emerger type pattern commonly used for "Klinkhamer". I mostly catch grayling, except for the odd trout, and almost every fish is hooked in the scissor or upper lip. Those longshank hooks were too often deeper down and difficult to remove. I used them for two seasons until I saw the pattern of the pattern.

I suppose the risk to be carried away, for me, has more to do with looks than with catching. Some hooks are more pleasing to the eye than others. Like Bob Smith I have a soft spot for Kamasan B525, have been using it for a few years. That is a coarse fishing hook too.

Thank you for pointing this out. I will ask the fish...

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Re: Mean looking hook.

Post by Jerry G » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:30 pm

dd as you stated you have seen problems with another hook in regard to being harmful to the fish and with that I'm sure you will be vigilant here also. Perhaps some others reading the posts here will also now realize the possible potential for this design to be lethal. If so then it simply comes down to where ones priorities are.

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