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Howdy All;

Just a question ... what fly are ya tying???

hank

Sorry for the delay guys. Life has gotten in the way and I did not have the energy to manage this swap properly. Let me try to get this back on track and set some swap guidelines (number of participants, dates, etc.)

Illustration from "Skues on Trout: Observations from an Angler Naturalist" by Paul Schullery, G. E. M. Skues (part of the mini "Fly-Fishing Classics Series").


DEADLINE: September 30th, 2014 (All the swap flies must be IN MY HANDS by this date. Please plan accordingly.)
ALL SWAPPERS WILL PROVIDE SELF ADDRESSED RETURN ENVELOPE AND INCLUDE POSTAGE FOR RETURN SHIPMENT
TOTAL NUMBER OF SWAPPERS: Still to be determined - We do not need to limit this to ten swappers, if there is enough interest.

PATTERN: "the Large Dark Spring Olive or Blue Dun" (not the "Iron Blue Dun")
(See historical references in this post by John Shaner) - http://www.flymphforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... =10#p68644

Here is a list of the swappers so far:
1) letumgo (completely lacking style) - Swapmeister
2) zen leecher (Yorkshire style)
3) cassady (Clyde style)
4) William Anderson (Tummel style)
5) tie2fish (Usk Naylor style)
6) Smuggler (Devon style)
7) Old Hat (Tweed)
8)
9)
10)

We can add more swappers if there is enough interest. Pick which every style (school) interests you. Duplication of schools is okay by me.

For those doing historical research on the patterns, I strongly encourage you to share what you find with us in this thread. If you find any interesting references, please share them here.

Anyone else want to join the swap?

I can handle September 30th.

I'll do a Tweed version.

Let ither angler choose their ain
An' either waters tak' the lead
O'Wielan streams we covet nane
But gi'e to us the bonnie Tweed
An' gi'e to us the cheerfu burn
That steals into its valley fair
The streamlets that at ilka turn
Sae softly meet an' mingle there

Thomas Stoddart, 1866

Thanks for joining this swap Carl, and thank you for sharing the poem. Fantastic!

Greenwell wrote:The best collected information on the different English/Scottish schools of trout fly dressing is to be found in Lawrie's English and Welsh Trout Flies and Scottish Trout Flies, and Taverner's Trout Fishing from all Angles and Fly Tying for Trout. Of course there is a lot of additional discussion on the styles but most is in more regionally focused books such as Reid's Clyde Style Flies, etc.
Schwiebert covers the above styles in his books, especially Trout, but most of his information was probably cribbed from Skues, Lawrie, Taverner, etc.
Skues used "the Large Dark Spring Olive or Blue Dun" (not the "Iron Blue Dun") as his model as it is widespread through out England and Scotland and therefore would be represented in artificial form by the various "schools" even though they are separated by geography and fishing conditions. The Blue Dun occupies a position in the UK similar to that of the Hendrickson in the eastern US. Greenhalgh says of the Large Dark Olive: "Perhaps one of the most widespread and abundant of Europe's upwinged flies", so it was an ideal species for Skues' examples of different fly dressing styles.

I do like the "Cliff's Notes" version Sweibert's TROUT provides. I tied up a prototype yorkshire version to see how it looks.

Ray, howdy;

I wasn't asking for a slot, I was just asking which fly y'all were
going to do the 10 versions of... that's all.

hank

Hank - Sorry. I misunderstood. I took you off the list (unless you change your mind).

I think everyone is doing the big dark dun Hank just a different style.

Ray, Howdy;

That's Ok, there were only 3 styles without wings and they're already
spoken for. I know that learning how to do the wings is an importaint step ...
just not one I'd feel comfortable doing for a swap ...yet.
Thanks for the good thoughts.

hank

Although it is not technically an "old" pattern, dating back only to the mid 20th century, I believe that the Usk Naylor (aka Usk Nailer) is a good representative of the full-bodied, relatively full-hackled patterns generally associated with trout fishing in the River Usk.

Hook: Daiichi 1530, Size #14
Thread: Pearsall's Gossamer silk #8, purple
Hackle: Dark blue dun Brahma hen
Tag: Thread wraps
Tail: Bronze mallard shoulder (3 barbs splayed)
Rib: Fine gold wire
Body: Bronze mallard shoulder barbs wrapped as herl