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Re: Leisenring Style

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:45 pm
by IronBlue
CreationBear wrote:Another question: when chopping down your long-staple fibers like from mohair, what's the length you usually go for? I'm thinking perhaps the width of the hook gap as a rule of thumb?
I'm still working on that, so your idea sounds pretty good. I have a lot to learn. My instincts are to not try to be precise and uniform, blending different lengths together. I like have a few longer, straggling fibers in the mix. They look more buggy, and give the air bubbles something to cling to. But, frankly, I don't think it makes a lot of difference. Leisenring's opening sentences in chapter seven put it into perspective for me. He wrote:
The purpose of this chapter is to explain the best method of spinning a body which will stand up under the "gnawing" of trout's teeth. A body which has been scraped down and worn well -- practically worn out-- is better than a new one for catching fish, so it is well to construct them for long wear."

Re: Leisenring Style

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:58 pm
by CreationBear
A body which has been scraped down and worn well -- practically worn out-- is better than a new one for catching fish, so it is well to construct them for long wear."
Great quote--I'm never on the water where it doesn't take an effort of will not to tie on the Mr. Rapidan I bought in 1996. :) Look forward to your next ties...

Re: Leisenring Style

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:03 pm
by IronBlue
Daring Duffer,
Great that you mention Gunnar Johnson. Although I can't read Swedish, I am an admirer of his. He had been tying and fishing flymphs long before he knew that Hidy had come up with a name for them.
I am lucky to own a copy of the 1981 Flugbinderbrev (Flytying Letter) that you refer to. In it is a flymph tied by Hidy. I'm attaching a scan of it.

Re: Leisenring Style

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:14 pm
by Kelly L.
Beautiful fly!! Love it.

Re: Leisenring Style

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:25 pm
by IronBlue
I've heard that Hidy was using old wire made from real silver, but it has tarnished in this example. Must have looked even better when the wire was shining and bright.

Re: Leisenring Style

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:16 pm
by Soft-hackle
Iron,
That is a wonderful fly. I hope you cherish it.

Mark

Re: Leisenring Style

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:10 am
by daringduffer
IronBlue wrote:Daring Duffer,
Great that you mention Gunnar Johnson. Although I can't read Swedish, I am an admirer of his. He had been tying and fishing flymphs long before he knew that Hidy had come up with a name for them.
I am lucky to own a copy of the 1981 Flugbinderbrev (Flytying Letter) that you refer to. In it is a flymph tied by Hidy. I'm attaching a scan of it.
In this Flugbindarbrev Hidy stresses the importance of using natural fur for watershedding properties, which he says gives the right translucency when wet. His recommended staple length is 5 mm and he recommends the use of tweezers to spread the fur on the silk; more fur in the middle and less at both ends to get that tapered effect. In the foreword Gunnar quotes Pete's advise:" Have the word simplicity in mind, Gunnar, try always to tie a fly you can be proud of." It seems that Hidy had a great respect for flytying as art/craft and he wanted all his flies to be beautiful, not just catching fish. In that respect there might have been a slight difference between Leisenring and Hidy.

(I only have one Flugbindarbrev, presenting the Elk Hair Caddis. This no 3 I'm quoting from is a scanned copy).

dd

Re: Leisenring Style

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:51 am
by CreationBear
If you've not already, check out Johan Klingberg's flies on Hans' site--another great Swedish practitioner of the art. :)

Re: Leisenring Style

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:23 am
by IronBlue
Does anybody know of other pre-Leisenring references to the dubbing loop other than this one by F. M. Halford, 1886, in Floating Flies and How to Dress Them?

Re: Leisenring Style

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:39 am
by narcodog
I must be spiritually connected to Halford, as that is how I make my loops. Damn :roll: