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Spiders

Post by Roy » Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:20 pm

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Recovering from a trapped neck nerve, thought I'd get some practice.

Stewart style spiders -
4 x Dun spiders top left corner
4 x Red Spiders along the bottom
6x Black spiders top right
Harelug and Plover - centre

I'll go practise some more :D

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Re: Spiders

Post by Ron Eagle Elk » Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:42 pm

Sorry to hear about the neck problem, Roy. The flies are just lovely though, bad neck or no.
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Re: Spiders

Post by Niklas Dahlin » Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:51 pm

NIce stuff Roy..
What up with the neck mate? Tell me.. Do you know for a fact that there should be yellow silk on the Dun Spider.. I don´t find anything telling the colour of the thread of the Dun spider in the "Practical angler" he seems to have left that out?
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Re: Spiders

Post by Roy » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:09 pm

Thanks, chaps,
Niklas Dahlin wrote:NIce stuff Roy..
What up with the neck mate? Tell me.. Do you know for a fact that there should be yellow silk on the Dun Spider.. I don´t find anything telling the colour of the thread of the Dun spider in the "Practical angler" he seems to have left that out?
Later
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Trapped nerve, Nik, tingling in fingers both hands, pain &cetera two months now..

I have no more evidence than you on thread colour as the Practical Angler is unspecific.
I took my recipe from Courtney Williams Dictionary of Trout Flies - well the thread anyway, he wants starling underwing for the hackle but the quail is excellent
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Re: Spiders

Post by Ruard » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:44 pm

Nice flies Roy.

I look in the book of Stewart and could not find the color of the thread. Roger Fogg:
"Stewart's Dun Spider
Hook: 14 or 16
Hakle: Dotterel feather wound half the length of the body.
A substitute dun-colourd feather from a starlig wing must now be used.
Body: Unspecified. I prefer to use a pale yellow or orange silk but other colours may be employed"

You are in good company with your silk.
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Re: Spiders

Post by gdsaltzman » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:50 pm

The spiders look deadly, good luck with the neck. My fingers sometimes feel a bit tingley after too many pints too.
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Re: Spiders

Post by Niklas Dahlin » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:35 am

Roy wrote:Thanks, chaps,
Niklas Dahlin wrote:NIce stuff Roy..
What up with the neck mate? Tell me.. Do you know for a fact that there should be yellow silk on the Dun Spider.. I don´t find anything telling the colour of the thread of the Dun spider in the "Practical angler" he seems to have left that out?
Later
Nik
I have no more evidence than you on thread colour as the Practical Angler is unspecific.
I took my recipe from Courtney Williams Dictionary of Trout Flies - well the thread anyway, he wants starling underwing for the hackle but the quail is excellent
;)
Hi.. I talked this over with Johan Klingberg over the phone.. I thought Dun was gray, he told me Dun is more like "cream yellowish greyish" if that´s the case it actually makes sence that the thread should be "yellowish".. The only thing I can hold against that theorie is that I think Red Spider and Dun Spider get kind of the same colour. I thought Stewart was thinking, dark bugger -Black spider, Medium bugger-Dun Spider and finally Light bugger. That to me make sence..

Well it seems to be yellow thread that is the correct colour....

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Re: Spiders

Post by Roy » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:07 pm

Niklas Dahlin wrote:
Well it seems to be yellow thread that is the correct colour....

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More like 'acceptable' colour Niklas.
Try it with dun, oranges, grey, olives - see how it goes.
Maybe the thread colour was unspecified for a reason....
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Re: Spiders

Post by letumgo » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:09 pm

Sorry to hear about your neck, Roy, but I'm glad to hear that its getting better. Lovely batch of spiders!
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Re: Spiders

Post by Roy » Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:27 pm

Thanks, all,

Niklas,
here is a set of Dun Spiders - well sort of...
Left to right
orange- yellow- olive- bodied.
I cannot see a lot of difference between olive and yellow, the orange stands out strongly, I have no grey, that should vanish like white in water.

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On your definition, I'd reckon the dark is the Black Spider,
the medium is the Red Spider,
the light is the Dun Spider.

Now, if Stewart was using cobbler's wax that would make sense.

This set would fare well in a varied Cahill hatch, I reckon.
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