Dark Watchet II
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Dark Watchet II
I'll be playing with the new wax for a while ...
Dark Watchet II
Hook: Daiichi 1640, #14
Main Tying Thread: Pearsall's Gossamer #19 (Hot Orange)
Hackle: Jackdaw neck feather
Tag: Tying thread, well waxed
Body: Tying thread (waxed) and Pearsall's Gossamer #9 (Purple) also waxed and dusted with mole, twisted together and wrapped forward
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Dark Watchet II
Hook: Daiichi 1640, #14
Main Tying Thread: Pearsall's Gossamer #19 (Hot Orange)
Hackle: Jackdaw neck feather
Tag: Tying thread, well waxed
Body: Tying thread (waxed) and Pearsall's Gossamer #9 (Purple) also waxed and dusted with mole, twisted together and wrapped forward
This photo is lost.
Last edited by tie2fish on Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:02 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Dark Watchet II
t2f, Howdy;
Nice tye... I'll be Watchet-ing it.
hank
PS. What kind/type of wax do you call it?
How'd you go about making it, if ya don't mind me asking?
Nice tye... I'll be Watchet-ing it.
hank
PS. What kind/type of wax do you call it?
How'd you go about making it, if ya don't mind me asking?
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Re: Dark Watchet II
I was surprise to read that this is a size 14 hook. For some reason it appears much smaller to me. I would have guessed it was an 18 or a 20.
Beautiful fly, btw. The wax really compliments the appearance of the fly. I love the color shift of the hot orange thread...
Beautiful fly, btw. The wax really compliments the appearance of the fly. I love the color shift of the hot orange thread...
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Re: Dark Watchet II
hank - I call it "homemade"
. I started with a 7-2-2 ratio of rosin (pitcher's), natural beeswax, and olive oil. This turned out to be far too much oil, and I ended up adding both more wax and more rosin until I got it to an acceptable compromise of hardness and tackiness. This required 4 re-heats in all.
Ray - I know what you mean about the hook size, but Daiichi 1640 hooks always look at least two sizes smaller than what the box says.

Ray - I know what you mean about the hook size, but Daiichi 1640 hooks always look at least two sizes smaller than what the box says.
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Bill - what do you think the ratios of you final mixture is? Are the ratios by mass or by volume?
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Re: Dark Watchet II
Ray ~ I first heard about the 7-2-2 ratio recipe from John Shaner, and he emphasized that this is based on weight, not volume. What I found out as I kept changing it to get the result I wanted is that there's probably not a single ratio combination that will work for everybody because of differences in the ingredients. There are many grades of rosin, for example, and I used natural beeswax that I got from a keeper rather than the refined stuff that's sold in stores. In addition, I used a specific brand/grade of olive oil as a softener, whereas I'm pretty sure the 7-2-2 formula is based on a lighter oil, such as castor. The one thing I would recommend for folks wanting to try making their own is to use a minimal amount of oil initially; it's much easier to add a little more oil if the cooled product is too hard than it is to crush more rosin or shave more beeswax if it's too soft.
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Re: Dark Watchet II
Oh, here's the wax recipe. I was going to ask for that in the other post. Looks good here too,
Great little watchet. It does look deceptively small, but nicely done.
w
Great little watchet. It does look deceptively small, but nicely done.
w
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Re: Dark Watchet II
Your pretty amazing all around Bill.......great little fly. 

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Re: Dark Watchet II
Thanks Bill. That sounds like excellent advice, as well.
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