Brown Shiner

[tie2fish]

t2f, Howdy;

x2, of what Ray & Mark R. both said.
Would also be courious to see the other Variation.

Thanks,

hank

Here's the "Brown Shiner with Herl Head" version. I left the thread a little 'flatter' for the body this time to get a smoother finish.

[hankaye]

t2f, Howdy;

GA-DANG ! That's one good lookin' fly !

Thanks for taking the time to do this.

hank

[letumgo]

A LITTLE flatter?!! Kansas isn't even that flat!

Simply amazing...

[DNicolson]

I think Fogg has it right for the ones he lists.
I don't think the hook size is mentioned, here is where to look.
http://www.archive.org/details/anglersm ... 00turtiala

[willowhead]

A LITTLE flatter?!! Kansas isn't even that flat!

Simply amazing...

rotflmao............Ray CAN be funny at times............ and hey, he don't have to be good at tellin' jokes, as long as he keeps commin' up with stuff like that.........

a definate thankx for the new tye and pic thereof Bill.........i like this one even more. You went beyond...........very impressive.

Tryin' to get our air-conditioner fixed today........we got a TU meeting tonight...... ......got another "batch" of hooks from Alex Hayes today.....

[CreationBear]

Am I right that "flatness" is not only a matter of unwinding the thread, but also of thread pressure? The abdomen of that second fly just looks....torquedI--I hope you're wearing safety goggles.

[tie2fish]

That's funny, CB . I'm sure thread pressure helps to flatten out the thread, but the main reason I pull hard on it is because it really enhances the transluscence that wax imparts to silk.

[William Anderson]

Bill, these are wonderful ties. I especially like the second version with the longer hook and peacock head. It's wonderfully done all around. Gorgeous hackle section.
The light orange silk with your wax has a nice quality.

Donald, your hackle articles are a wonderful resource.

w

[William Anderson]

So, I'm a little tardy in getting to this, but it's not often you see a Brown Shiner pattern posted, and this was adjunctly relevant. Not that Fogg mentioned this, but it's hard to keep MC out of the fray. (miss that dude, for now. He'll be back) He made a notation for me a few years ago that I included in the soft-hackle lists document with notations. This is a comment regarding one of the lists which included the Brown Shiner.

* Note: Mike Connors: The “Tammy” mentioned in the remarks to the “Brown Shiner”, is a worsted cloth (a wool or wool and cotton mix. Worsted means a firm-textured, compactly twisted mainly wool yarn made from long- staple fibers) with a glazed finish.
This is chiefly of interest as “shiny” materials of this nature, apart from some wire ribbing, and very occasionally tinsel, were extremely rare on such flies. This is the closest to a “synthetic” I have seen in such flies. I have two other patterns which specify “tammy” as a body material. The “tammy” could be any color of course, and this would then be specified.

Just fodder.

w

[michaelgmcgraw]

MC back ? cool !