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Stewarts Red Spider

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:13 pm
by Updtate
Hook. Daiichi 1180 size 12.
Silk. Pearsalls gossamer yellow.
Body .same.
Hackle. Landrail! Subbed with under covert feather of a European Jay.
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Re: Stewarts Red Spider

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:41 pm
by Variant
Well done Tom !
I think your sub of European Jay is a better sub than the American woodcock under covert feather.

Lou

Re: Stewarts Red Spider

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:55 pm
by Fishnkilts
The way the hackle looks is really wild looking. It's sure to have lots of movement under water.

Re: Stewarts Red Spider

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 5:43 pm
by Updtate
Just my interpretation. Nobody really knows. I have seen Starling,landrail,dotterel listed by others. A pattern that works and no one knows how to correctly tie it!


Tom

Re: Stewarts Red Spider

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:06 pm
by Fishnkilts
Updtate wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 5:43 pm Just my interpretation. Nobody really knows. I have seen Starling,landrail,dotterel listed by others. A pattern that works and no one knows how to correctly tie it!


Tom
According to W.C. Stewart in his book, The Practical Angler ( worth owning in my opinion ) Stewart says;

The Red Spider should be made of the small feather taken from the outside of the wing of the landrail, dressed with yellow silk, and is deserving of a very high rank, particularly in coloured water. Pg 96 & 97.

I find that if you want to tie the original, or clos to it, go to the horses mouth.

Re: Stewarts Red Spider

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:47 pm
by wsbailey
The wing in the picture is from a corncrake. On the left is a chukar tail. This website suggests a dyed starling feather but the jay feather looks great.

https://currentseams.com/tag/stewarts-red-spider/

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Re: Stewarts Red Spider

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:09 pm
by Updtate
Tom
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According to W.C. Stewart in his book, The Practical Angler ( worth owning in my opinion ) Stewart says;

The Red Spider should be made of the small feather taken from the outside of the wing of the landrail, dressed with yellow silk, and is deserving of a very high rank, particularly in coloured water. Pg 96 & 97.

I find that if you want to tie the original, or clos to it, go to the horses mouth.
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you are 200% correct on this one! I don't know where my mind was! What color body on his No. 3 Dun Spider?