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Turtons red spider

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:52 pm
by daringduffer

Re: Turtons red spider

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:01 pm
by willowhead
Don't see any Red there, (undoubtedly some historical ignorance on my part), but i DO see one fantastically beautiful fly. ;)
That puppy is gorgeous! :D

Re: Turtons red spider

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:47 pm
by letumgo
Wow, that is a fantastic pattern, dd! I love the shape of the body and the mottling of the hackle is striking.

Re: Turtons red spider

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:20 pm
by michaelgmcgraw
Very good looking fly-good job !

Re: Turtons red spider

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:28 pm
by hankaye
dd, Howdy;

Great looking fly, ....................................

followed the link, .......................................then a link off of that.............................

VERY interesting.....specially the twisting of the thread on the watchet..............

hank

Re: Turtons red spider

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:42 pm
by William Anderson
Good lord, DD, that is a really great pattern. I'm a sucker for those proportions and materials and this is put together especially well. Curious about the name myself. I could look it up, but I'll probably just wait to hear from someone who knows these things. (smiley)

w

Re: Turtons red spider

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:03 pm
by CreationBear
Yes, some of your wild colonial cousins would take as much information about this pattern as you have time for. :) Like Hank, I'm especially curious about the traditonal method of watchet dubbing--I might run out of thumbs trying to work two threads.

Re: Turtons red spider

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:34 am
by daringduffer
Fellow members, I am guilty of deceit and yet innocent. It was not my intention that you should believe that I tied that beautiful fly. Thats why I posted the link to where I found it. Some of you know that I don't have a camera and I assumed you all knew; stupid me.

I will now post a link to a small book that I haven't written:
http://books.google.se/books?id=nB5KAAA ... &q&f=false

On page 17 mr Turton presents the Red Spider.( It is as red as the W.C. Stewart Red Spider).

Take a look at his recommendations for "General Equipment" as well. Lots of intersting information.

dd

Re: Turtons red spider

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:51 am
by William Anderson
:D DD, I was just remarking to Ray regarding the quality of your photography and hoping to bend your ear to learn what you've done and how. Gorgeous fly, no doubt, and thank you for sharing it with us. It definitely got my attention. If the original tiers don't mind, I like that you found something we could all appreciate and shared it with us. I would not have seen it otherwise.

Get a camera. Please. I would like to see what you're up to as well.

w

Re: Turtons red spider

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:09 am
by daringduffer
I was a bit off with my comparison of Turton's and Stewart's red spiders. The Stewart Red Spider is tied with yellow silk and feather from the outside of a landrail's wing.
Image

The Turton Red Spider is tied with a "red mottled partridge rump feather" in addition to the hare's ear difference.

Turton 1836.

Stewart 1857.

William, I prefer to buy steel, fur and feathers.

dd

Photo from http://www.thewesternisles.co.uk/birds/corncrake.htm