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I still don't have my camera set up and I haven't been able to tie since our vacation, but i took these earlier. I always seem to find the comparisons of these simple flies more interesting.

Starling and Claret 1530 Simple



Starling and Claret 1530 Waxed (with cobblers wax)



Starling and Claret 1530 Dubbed (split silk, wax and touch a bit of mole)



Starling and Claret 1120 Hook Variation.


w

VERY nice tyin' William.....i like the bottom one best. Somethin' bout that concept, "Variation"..... wether it's the hook, or materials or design or whatever. Just makes a tye more personal.....

Beautifully executed. Love the pattern, can't go wrong with either material. The comparisons are great and they all will be wonderful in the water.

All are truly well tied, but the first one is my personal favorite of the bunch simply because of the way the hackle is set.

Tough choice... All spiders are beautiful!

Very nice group!! I'm fond of the mole version for mayflies.

Dub-Ya,Howdy:

Each and every one a WINNER !

Personal favorite .... hmmmm.... #'s 1 & 4... too close to call.

2&3 are so close ya could singe single ply toiletpaper on both sides and leave the middle part raw

hank

Lovely! Like the versions with a touch of mole. All wonderful materials to work with.
Thanks for posting.

tie2fish wrote:the first one is my personal favorite of the bunch simply because of the way the hackle is set.

Don't get too hung up on the hackle set. I'll certainly muck it up tying it on the tippet, and after watching it move so well in the water, it will be mangled beyond recognition in the limbs on every third cast. (silly)

The difference between 1, 2 and 3 is really negligible, but those things make a differnce (at the vise anyway) when you're only using two materials. I like to play "how sparse is sparse?" and the bit of dubbing in number 3 could actually be more effective with alittle more "body". I think I would probably grab #4 streamside. I like the thorax working with the hackle. Of course picking any fly at any given time can be a fickle business.

w

William Anderson wrote: I think I would probably grab #4 streamside. I like the thorax working with the hackle. Of course picking any fly at any given time can be a fickle business.

It depends on what's happening on the water, too. #1 or #2, in about a size 18, would make a great winter stonefly. In my experience, adding bulk there is last thing you want to do. #3 or #4 (in the same size) would probably be better midge imitations.

What size are they?