Peter Ross Dabbler

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Peter Ross Dabbler

Post by Hans Weilenmann » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:34 pm

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Peter Ross Dabbler
Hook: Kamasan B405 #12
Thread: Benecchi 12/0, black
Collar: Barred teal barbs
Hackle: Hen, black
Tail: Lady Amherst tippets, dyed hot orange
Abdomen: Mylar, silver - tied flat
Rib: Mylar, silver - corded
Thorax: Seal's fur, scarlet

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Re: Peter Ross Dabbler

Post by hankaye » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:09 pm

Hans Howdy;

Majestic ..... first word that poped into my head when I saw it ...
like when the Ink Blot test is taken ...

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Re: Peter Ross Dabbler

Post by letumgo » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:21 pm

That be a handsome Hans. Lookls like it would be murder on the lochs.
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Re: Peter Ross Dabbler

Post by kacbo » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:33 am

Hans, great fly!

Couple questions, just to affirm things:
Teal barbs was tied over the eye, first?
Hen hackle was palmered from eye to bend, then counter-ribbed, from bend to eye?
Thorax was tied before or after the ribbing is over?

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Re: Peter Ross Dabbler

Post by chase creek » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:41 am

I think Ray hit it - Handsome! Very cool and distinguished tie.
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Re: Peter Ross Dabbler

Post by DNicolson » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:12 am

A very nice dressing as usual Hans.
The Peter Ross is still a popular tail fly on a Loch cast, here in Scotland.
It dates from about 1900 and has Teal wings.
I like this better than the Teal winged version.

I thought a wee bit of history would not go amiss.
Peter Ross lived in Killin at the head of Loch Tay, Clan MacNab country.
He was in the right place to test flies on trout. :lol:
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Re: Peter Ross Dabbler

Post by Hans Weilenmann » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:20 am

kacbo wrote:Hans, great fly!

Couple questions, just to affirm things:
Teal barbs was tied over the eye, first?
Hen hackle was palmered from eye to bend, then counter-ribbed, from bend to eye?
Thorax was tied before or after the ribbing is over?

Thank's!
In all my recipes the materials are listed in the order I tie them in - which often gives sufficient information to clarify the tying process.

Teal barbs tied in, tips over eye, first.

Hen hackle tied in as the second material, just back of the teal barbs tie-in point. Correct, wrapped towards bend, tip trapped by the corded silver tinsel, which is spiraled back towards eye.

Thorax already in place, hackle wrapped over it, and ribbing over hackle and thorax.

It does help to grow an extra set of hands, btw, for this fly and the approach I took. The tying thread never extends past the thorax portion, the tailing material is tied in at the thorax point, and then is tied down on top of the shank by the mylar only. Having separate abdomen material and ribbing material is more conventional, and easier, but bulks up the abdomen which I wanted to keep very slender.

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Re: Peter Ross Dabbler

Post by kacbo » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:36 am

Everythin is clear now.
Thank You, Hans!
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Re: Peter Ross Dabbler

Post by Stendalen » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:33 am

DNicolson wrote:A very nice dressing as usual Hans.
The Peter Ross is still a popular tail fly on a Loch cast, here in Scotland.
It dates from about 1900 and has Teal wings.
I like this better than the Teal winged version.

I thought a wee bit of history would not go amiss.
Peter Ross lived in Killin at the head of Loch Tay, Clan MacNab country.
He was in the right place to test flies on trout. :lol:
Peter Ross is a favourite of mine, works well in Sweden as well. This version ticks all my boxes. :D

Hans; do you think it gets too bulky wrapping two tuns with a teal hackle, is that the reason you use the "barb technique"?
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Re: Peter Ross Dabbler

Post by Hans Weilenmann » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:58 am

Stendalen wrote:Hans; do you think it gets too bulky wrapping two tuns with a teal hackle, is that the reason you use the "barb technique"?
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Two reasons, Martin.

In order to wrap teal as a standard hackle on this #12 hook you would have to find a really tiny barred teal feather - not an easy task.

Secondly, of done with the conventional cloak approach it tends to make for a bigger, bulkier head - where I was keen to keep the head size down and neat.

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