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Found reference to these two patterns as being useful for Sea-run trout by the Danes. We do not have true Sea Trout here, the introduction failed (maybe they hit the sea and swam home to the British streams? ), but they might be of interest for some of you to try.

This is my favourite..... for name alone!

Idioten (Idiot)



Hook: #1 up eye Salmon iron
Thread: Black
Tail: Red hackle fibres
Tag: Oval gold tinsel
Body: Flat Gold Tinsel
Hackle: Soft black with soft red over.
Head: Black

Hedefluen (Moor Fly) WARNING...... WINGS!!



Hook: #2 Double *
Thread: Black for main body, red for head.
Tail: Red hackle fibres
Tag: Narrow flat silver tinsel
Body hackle: Chestnut brown cock hackle
Body: Peacock herl, tied plump and full (8-10 strands)
Wing: Two furnace hackle, back to back
Front hackle: Brown hen.

* This example is NOT tied on a #2 double as I do not have a double hook to my name! What I did was sweat the third barb off a treble #6, squeeze the two remaining barbs toward each other a bit and use that. So it may appear a bit squat rather than the true big Sea-Run fly it is meant to be.

Your talents are shining through. My word those are some stunning patterns.

Oooo, me likes! Those flies would hunt.

Look at you getting all fancy and dressing up for dinner. These are fantastic. You're really putting together some nice patterns and techniques that and cover a lot of ground. Good for you.

w

lykos33 wrote:LOVE the flies...slapping myself for not thinking of your method of creating a "double". The price of quality doubles is c-r-a-z-y! I can now cheat a little and at least have some smaller doubles from trebles...thanks for the inspiration
Murray

Murray, that was born of desperation and perhaps not the ideal. If you are going to try it might be easier or safer to cut the bend off the third hook with a Dremel or similar, or snip it off with good sharp wire cutters and file the stub left.
Heating enough to melt the brazing holding the third shank may alter the temper of the other two. I used a propane torch on very low heat and jammed a blade screwdriver under the shank bend of the one I was removing, levering off the bend of the other two with a lot of force, so it kind of tore the third shank out when the braze was soft, not fall off when the braze was melted.

Some European tiers tie on trebles, you could always try that?

For sure these flies will catch the sea-trout! Great ties! The Danish is really good and have developed a lot of nice flies over the years, much more innovative than the Swedish tradition (baitfish imitations, worms). I do what I can to change that with my XL soft hackle flies

br
Martin

Jeff,

don't you have browns that run to sea and return on the south island? I thought there were some in the Pomahaka and a few of the other rivers down on the east coast that have relatively few, but none the less some brown trout that can, and do, get to the sea.

I really like the top fly!

True Boris, we do. But that is exactly what they are, the odd Brown that ventures down to see what is around the next corner and....... hello..... this is a bit different! They spend a bit of time there looking around and taking in the sights, eating the new and numerous foods (much like a young adult human on an O.E.) then head back home as the yearning for settling down and setting up a home and getting married takes over.
We do not have the Cutthroat or Steelhead runs of North America, or the Sea Trout type of runs from the UK an Europe. The only Salmon runs are small and in those big rivers of Canterbury, you know the ones.

Ok, so it's really a small quantity of fish and not really a seasonal migratory move.

Thanks for clarification. I've never fished for them but some blokes I kmow make trips specificaly to traget them. No wonder they are often skunked..

Cheers