New Flymph Hook

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New Flymph Hook

Post by Old Hat » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:21 am

Not really new but makes a very nice flymph base.

I have been experimenting with some different contemporary hooks that would make for good foundational Flymph hooks. I use both heavy and standard or light wire hooks. I generally use softer or gamebird hackle on my flymphs tied on heavier hooks. I prefer Tiemco 3761 (and it is available barbless). For lighter flymphs I prefer hen capes coupled with the lighter hooks. I find most of the up eye hooks available a little short in the shank. Not everyone likes the up eye but I personally like the traditional looks of them. I like to tie on them but I certainly use others probably 70% of the time. Some of the older hooks have a little longer shank but of course they are very limited. Anyway, I’ve been playing with a straight eye hook. A nice hook from Tiemco the 101. The straight eye version of their standard dry 100. It lends a nice base for flymphs that I want to ride a little higher. Bonus is a small little tweak in the vise and you have a very nice slightly up eye hook with great proportions for the Flymph design. Plus they are much easier to come by.
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Re: New Flymph Hook

Post by joaniebo » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:47 am

Have you ever tried these? From (http://www.troutandsalmonhooks.com/shop/ )
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Re: New Flymph Hook

Post by letumgo » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:48 pm

Carl - When you “tweak” the hook, are you clamping the eye in the jaws of the vise and pressing the hook? It looks like your including a small fraction of the hook shank too. Neat way to adjust the proportions of the shank.

Great tip. 👍
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Re: New Flymph Hook

Post by Old Hat » Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:39 am

letumgo wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:48 pm Carl - When you “tweak” the hook, are you clamping the eye in the jaws of the vise and pressing the hook? It looks like your including a small fraction of the hook shank too. Neat way to adjust the proportions of the shank.

Great tip. 👍
yes, I place the hook eye in the vise jaws and push the shank. It's not a hard bend. The radius is a bit soft but probably better for structural integrity any way.
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Re: New Flymph Hook

Post by Old Hat » Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:40 am

joaniebo wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:47 am Have you ever tried these? From (http://www.troutandsalmonhooks.com/shop/ )
I have tried the R50U and the new Partridge, both are a little short in the shank length for me. Still fine hooks for this purpose but I'm just looking for what I prefer.
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Re: New Flymph Hook

Post by FlyFisherMann1955 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:57 pm

Carl,

Where did you buy the new Partridge (L5A/UE) hooks? I'm still waiting for the Dette Fly Shop
to receive their order.

Thanks- Ken
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Re: New Flymph Hook

Post by Theroe » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:04 pm

Carl - thank you my friend, just what I need: more hook adventures!!! :o :shock: .

Bob - Richard Jefferies has mega good hooks, I’ve bought more from him than any of you would care to know. That hook in particular is my absolute favorite not only for flymphs but wets and dries...... It’s very sharp and very strong.

Now, because you reminded me, I’m just gonna have to place another order when I get home from work today.
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Re: New Flymph Hook

Post by Mike62 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:34 pm

Theroe wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:04 pm Carl - thank you my friend, just what I need: more hook adventures!!! :o :shock: .

Bob - Richard Jefferies has mega good hooks, I’ve bought more from him than any of you would care to know. That hook in particular is my absolute favorite not only for flymphs but wets and dries...... It’s very sharp and very strong.

Now, because you reminded me, I’m just gonna have to place another order when I get home from work today.
😬

Dana
Well, after looking at Carl's modifications and Bob mentioning the Partridge L5A/UE, where do you stand on the old and venerable 38933 UE?

I just dug out a box of 94825's UE in #14. ...weird little thing it is, too.
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Re: New Flymph Hook

Post by Theroe » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:17 am

I would like to meet the man from Mustad, who was accountable for their numbering system. .......
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Re: New Flymph Hook

Post by bearbutt » Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:07 pm

Theroe wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:17 am I would like to meet the man from Mustad, who was accountable for their numbering system. .......
You and Datus Proper, who would like to meet the person responsible for all the hook sizing numbers, lol.

I'd like to meet Helen, who inspected most of the Partridge hooks I have, lol. You know--the "Inspected by Helen" stamps?

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