Muskrat

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Re: Muskrat

Post by JohnP » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:35 pm

Apparently, the weighted, beadhead version of this fly is quite the killer. :o
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Re: Muskrat

Post by DUBBN » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:09 pm

JohnP wrote:Apparently, the weighted, beadhead version of this fly is quite the killer. :o

:D :D :D
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Re: Muskrat

Post by DUBBN » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:29 pm

I take beads with me to the river. If I want the extra weight/flash that a bead provides I simply slide it up the tippet, and then attatch my fly. That bead will stay up against the fly the entire drift. I like this method as all my Soft Hackles, Flymphs and nymphs can do double duty.
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Re: Muskrat

Post by hankaye » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:10 pm

DUBBIN, Howdy;

Found a variant to your trusty Muskrat while I was nosing around on U-Tube and stumbled across this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25GvwIw0nG8

Not sure what Language he's speaking but alot of it makes sense if one listens carefully ...

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Re: Muskrat

Post by DUBBN » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:14 pm

Thanks Hank. That 200R hook sure makes for a pretty pattern.
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Re: Muskrat

Post by Ruard » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:04 am

hankaye wrote:DUBBIN, Howdy;

Found a variant to your trusty Muskrat while I was nosing around on U-Tube and stumbled across this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25GvwIw0nG8

Not sure what Language he's speaking but alot of it makes sense if one listens carefully ...

hank

hi Hank,

It is German but with a lot of accent.

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Re: Muskrat

Post by willowhead » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:49 am

He does a good job with that fly............Dyna King vise......Wasatch bobbin........takes the tinsel thru the thorax...........and mentions Leisenring. :D
hank you'll notice that because it's a spares tye, (3 herl strands, 3 turns of hackle), he tyes the hackle in by the butt.....longest fibers first. Actually he's using the "tip" of the feather, but not tying in "by the tip." And he took the thread back thru the hackle towards the eye before he forced the fibers to the rear while doing the head. It's a good technique. Very durable fly. ;)
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Re: Muskrat

Post by DUBBN » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:26 am

willowhead wrote:He does a good job with that fly............Dyna King vise......Wasatch bobbin........takes the tinsel thru the thorax...........and mentions Leisenring. :D
hank you'll notice that because it's a spares tye, (3 herl strands, 3 turns of hackle), he tyes the hackle in by the butt.....longest fibers first. Actually he's using the "tip" of the feather, but not tying in "by the tip." And he took the thread back thru the hackle towards the eye before he forced the fibers to the rear while doing the head. It's a good technique. Very durable fly. ;)


Thats the technique I use to tie in my hackle. Normally the hackle is the first ingredient after the thread that will be tied on the hook. I will say he used alot of unnecessary wraps to sweep the feathers back after he ran the thread through the hackle. I purposely crowd the eye of the hook. After i run the thread through the hackle I use one complete wrap to sweep the feather back, and one wrap for good measure. Three to four whip finishes and I am done. It's the only way I am able to achieve small heads on my Flymphs.
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Re: Muskrat

Post by kanutripr » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:35 am

I'm with Dubbn. That makes an extremely durable fly. The only difference is I use 2 3 turn whip finishes since I rarely use head cement except on streamers and I pretty much always use 8/0 tying thread (again except on streamers) to keep the bulk down. I also usually mount the feather in first by the butt end unless the stem is too thick to wrap nicely. I get less hackles breaking this way. :roll:

Wayne thanks for the tip with the beads. I'll have to remember to stick some in my pack.



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