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Re: Mayfly Flymph

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:15 pm
by Ron Eagle Elk
Martin,

The more I look at your fly, the more I like it. Thanks for posting it. I'll be adding a few to my fly box.

REE

Re: Mayfly Flymph

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:44 pm
by Soft-hackle
Martin,
Have you seen the tying work of Johan Klingberg. I have corresponded with Johan, a bit, some time ago and I admire his flies a lot. This fly reminds me a lot of a fly he ties of the same name. Look here:

http://www.danica.com/flytier/jklingber ... flymph.htm

My version:

http://libstudio.com/FS&S/html/cream_flymph.html

I like your version as well. It looks fine.

Mark

Re: Mayfly Flymph

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:52 pm
by Stendalen
Oh yes :P , I've seen his work, tied and fished with him several times as well. He is one of the best I have seen, both fishing and tying!

So, as I said in my previous post, this is a complete rip-off from Johan :-)

You have a bit palmered hackle, I like that!

Martin

Re: Mayfly Flymph

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:10 pm
by CreationBear
Ha...I have to admit that I've had Mr. Klingberg's ties bookmarked for a long time as well! :) A great match for Hans' photography skills...

Re: Mayfly Flymph

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:49 pm
by Soft-hackle
Hi Martin,
I should have read a bit further. I would have seen the link to Johan's Tiers Page. We use to send e-mail to one another, but we have kind of lost touch. When you see him next time, tell him Mark Libertone sais "Hello!" . I am wondering if he will remember me.

I altered Johan's pattern a bit, and wrapping through the thorax is a new flymph trait publicized in Dave Hughes' book Wet Flies.

Mark

Re: Mayfly Flymph

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:34 pm
by Stendalen
Soft-hackle wrote:Hi Martin,
I should have read a bit further. I would have seen the link to Johan's Tiers Page. We use to send e-mail to one another, but we have kind of lost touch. When you see him next time, tell him Mark Libertone sais "Hello!" . I am wondering if he will remember me.

I altered Johan's pattern a bit, and wrapping through the thorax is a new flymph trait publicized in Dave Hughes' book Wet Flies.

Mark
I sure will, I'll meet him for a tying session in February next year (or maybe by the river during the Christmas weekend if the cold whether will loose its grip).

/Martin

Re: Mayfly Flymph

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:35 pm
by willowhead
Thankx for the links Mark.....both Johan's fly an yours are terriic. Hans is definately an expert in digital photograpy. And flymphs HAVE to be the single coolest (classification of), flies there are for Trout fishin'..... :) When you think of how cool they look, and how well they "work".....how in the world can that be beat? .....right, it can't. :D
One thing i really like is how you can fish them at any level of the water column.....and they're good on broken water, flat water, riffels, spring creeks, free stone rivers, tail waters, lakes.....whatever...........versatality.....OH YEAH! ;)

Re: Mayfly Flymph

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:58 pm
by Stendalen
Hi again,
Thank you everyone for your comments and knowledge!

Here have tried some different techniques.
Image
Hook: Tiemco 2312 #8 (-12)
Thread: Pearsall's Gossamer Silk, Yellow
Hackle: Hungarian partridge
Tail: Pheasant tail
Abdomen: Argentinean Hare, Naples Ochre - into split thread
Thorax 1: Argentinean Hare, Raw Umber - into split thread
Thorax 2/Legs: Natural CdC - into split thread

Re: Mayfly Flymph

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:05 pm
by Hans Weilenmann
Martin,

What do you think yourself?

I would suggest tying in the hackle as your first material, and wrap it last and away from the eye. Tie down tip with a single wrap of silk and immediately cut through the hackle at a steep angle, getting in front of the hackle in less[ than a single turn. As no material needs to be tied down, all the head ends up being is a three turn whip finish.

Cheers,
Hans W

Re: Mayfly Flymph

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:28 pm
by Stendalen
Hans Weilenmann wrote:Martin,

What do you think yourself?

I would suggest tying in the hackle as your first material, and wrap it last and away from the eye. Tie down tip with a single wrap of silk and immediately cut through the hackle at a steep angle, getting in front of the hackle in less[ than a single turn. As no material needs to be tied down, all the head ends up being is a three turn whip finish.

Cheers,
Hans W
Well, I like the body (dubbing in split thread), but the CdC in split thread I don't like, got a bit too bulky.

Yes, wrapping the hackle away from the eye - I tried that earlier today, however I tied the hackle down with three wraps, then I went forward through the hackle (with more than a single turn). Having both CdC and Partridge...well the front of the fly got rather bulky and "dead" lookin'. I've only tied for a season and haven't fished all my flies yet...so I don't have the "feeling" for how much wraps is enough or necessary. If you say that a single wrap is enough to tie down and then go straight to the head, that is what I will do. Thank you very much for your guidance!

Later
Martin