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Re: Tummelweed

Post by hankaye » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:53 am

Hans, Howdy;

Dang ! That's a beauty...

Video at 11:00 ?????
Seriously, to see how
you were able to jam
so much
into such a tiny area
would be interesting
to watch ... :D

hank
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Re: Tummelweed

Post by Mike Connor » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:59 am

Hans Weilenmann wrote:Image

Tummelweed
Hook: Kamasan B175 #16
Thread: Benecchi 12/0, black
Wing: Partridge tail barbs
Hackle: Whiting Coq de Leon hen, medium pardo
Body: Mole, dyed chestnut

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Hans W
Looks good. One point I have noticed on flies of this type, they work better if the wing actually protrudes from the thorax ( as in the natural fly) instead of being tied in at the front. This of course is difficult to quantify, but it does make an appreciable difference on a number of flies.

TL
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Re: Tummelweed

Post by Hans Weilenmann » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:30 am

Mike Connor wrote:Looks good. One point I have noticed on flies of this type, they work better if the wing actually protrudes from the thorax ( as in the natural fly) instead of being tied in at the front. This of course is difficult to quantify, but it does make an appreciable difference on a number of flies.

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Mike,

Interesting observation. Pls clarify, using the fly shown in this thread, this would be a wing sprouting from the middle of the small thorax? If so, where would the hackle be? Still ahead of the thorax?

Let me know and I might do one up to see how they compare, side by side.

Cheers,
Hans W
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Re: Tummelweed

Post by Mike Connor » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:47 am

You can see it here;

http://www.flymphforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... ing#p12743

There is a marked difference in catch rates on the flies with the wings at the front and the wings at the thorax. In a few cases I have caught fish on the "thorax wing" fly, switched to an otherwise identical "forward wing" fly and caught nothing, switched back and started catching again. It is an apparently minor difference to us but it obviously makes a difference to the fish, and is sometimes the difference between catching and not catching.

I don't use "extra hackles" as such on these flies any more, I just pick out some dubbing. I found they worked better.

http://flymphforum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 120#p36169

On various soft-hackles, spiders etc the hackle usually represents the wings of a fly of course.

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Re: Tummelweed

Post by Hans Weilenmann » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:34 pm

Front view:

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Re: Tummelweed

Post by redietz » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:26 pm

I thought it was over-dressed, myself. ;)
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