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Re: Soft Hackle Water Boatman Pattern

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:05 pm
by Mataura mayfly
Ray...... have you been drinking? :lol: :lol: :oops:

Re: Soft Hackle Water Boatman Pattern

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:00 pm
by letumgo
Jeff - Unfortunately not... :cry:

:lol: :D ;)

Re: Soft Hackle Water Boatman Pattern

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:19 am
by Mataura mayfly
Well - it is well after 5pm here. :lol:
Couple of NZ patterns are as follows.

Backswimmer (Narrower body than the water boatman and carries it's air bubble under it's abdomen, the boatman holds his under his wing.)
Hook: #10-14
Body: Dubbed rabbit fur
Wing case: Black Pukeko plumage (or substitute), tied at the base, pulled over and secured as a beetle, trimmed leaving two barbs which are pulled back and secured in that position by winding on the thread to finish the head, then cementing.

A variation of this pattern uses flat silver tinsel which glints, suggesting the insect's air bubble. To accentuate this, some like to put a twist in the tinsel.

Weddell's Water Boatman
Hook #12-14
Body: Olive green synthetic dubbing or grey Ostrich herl
Legs: Biots of a Mallard primary
Back (wing case): Dark grey or brown primary feather, hen pheasant, goose, pale turkey etc.

Marsh's Water Boatman
Hook: #16
Body: Green yellow polywing mix
Wing case: Green Kea (*good luck finding that one!) or substitute
Legs: Pheasant tai fibres

* The Kea is a NZ native high country parrot which could be shot at will back into the 1960's and is now heavily protected.

Re: Soft Hackle Water Boatman Pattern

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:33 pm
by William Anderson
Paparex, I can appreciate that the pattern you showed is effective and in the sense that a minimal spider pattern can at times represent a natural better than a realistic pattern by offering a couple important triggers (action and color). Does a partridge and orange really approximate a caddis? I usually feel more confident when a pattern also considers profile, especially for such a portly bug, but I would not discount the spider as taking fish as you've described. I have no experience fishing this"hatch" so I wouldn't venture a guess. If you get a chance to do a little side by side fishing of the two patterns shown...I'd love to hear about that.

Wow, Jeff, that's a great little bug. Especially the black pukeko looks great. Nice post. (1:30pm, sober). :D

Re: Soft Hackle Water Boatman Pattern

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:23 pm
by CreationBear
You know, I've not got a chance to try this yet, but I've got an experiment in mind for various hydrofuge-y patterns like diving caddis ties or now, in this case, MM's water boatman.

Equipment You Will Need:

1.) One (1) Tenkara rod and line

2.) A tungsten bead or two pegged on the tippet two feet above the fly

and

3.) The fly of your choice (e.g. a hydropsyche pattern) coated with Frog's Fanny or other paste desicant

No doubt the Tenkara purists would have a stroke, but I could imagine a fellow working this outfit like a "jig-n-pig" through likely riffles and plunge pools (depending on what insect you were trying to imitate. "Carolina kebari," perhaps? :lol:

Re: Soft Hackle Water Boatman Pattern

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:49 pm
by Kelly L.
Jeff, that was a great Water Boatman pattern!

Re: Soft Hackle Water Boatman Pattern

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:42 pm
by paparex
Thanks everyone for your input. I have a number of the Water Boatmen and Backswimmer patterns similar to Jeff's contributions. I have never attempted the soft hackle I was trying to locate. But, wanted to tie some up because they are elegant... Hopefully, they fish well even during a corixa "hatch." I did try a #14 hook with olive-yellow dubbing body, turkey feather shell back, flash trailing, a brown partridge feather wrapped at the 2/3 length to approximate legs and a olive-yellow dubbing head. Not too bad looking. I'm sure it will hunt. Thanks for the ideas