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Re: pheasant tail soft hackle

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:23 am
by DUBBN
gingerdun wrote:Hair dye for dubbing?
Never heard of this before, but it makes sense.
Are other tyers doing this?
Or is this your invention?
Very cool.

Lance
I am sure others are doing this Lance, but like you, it's news to me. Makes perfect sense aswell. My wife will not worry when I bring home Chestnut, Pink, or Orange hair dye. She will just roll her eyes :roll: and tell me not to make a mess.

Re: pheasant tail soft hackle

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:16 pm
by cicvara
-do not know if it works for some, perhaps, I tried the rabbit foot and succeeded me, to see the flies, I still have some color, I tried with other furs, when I have them I'll try, should be a little brighter to to succeed. Although it all may be purchased already painted, but I prefer it when I do.Chestnut or Orange hair dye, It is a good suggestion.

Re: pheasant tail soft hackle

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:39 pm
by Mataura mayfly
Hair dye works just fine for tying materials....... just make sure you read the packs and get permanent stuff, not the type designed to wash out to natural after half a dozen showers..... otherwise a killer pattern on the first cast might end up rather dull by the tenth cast! :lol:

Great looking PT variant to start the thread though. I have never formed a herl rope like that for a PT.... must give it a try.

Re: pheasant tail soft hackle

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:51 pm
by Roadkill
Great fly!

Salon coloring was an integral part of the hair/hackle insert craze that ruffled the feathers of many dry fly tyers. For some selling their select skins to the hair shops or on ebay was a goldmine. ;)

Re: pheasant tail soft hackle

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:15 pm
by Smuggler
So simple yet so effective. You have to love pheasant tail.

Awesome fly Cicvara! Good thinking with the hair dye... I've never even thought of that before.

Re: pheasant tail soft hackle

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:57 am
by Soft-hackle
Hi gingerdun,
Eric Leiser, who has written some books on materials and dying them and who use to own and run his own fly shop some years back, used women's hair dye (Clairol) for dying rooster and hen neck. ( He did an article on the technique for Fly Fisherman Magazine some time ago.) It works quite well, especially for getting good dun colored feathers. Eric also used a photo-dying technique, using silver nitrate and developing chemicals to achieve dun colored dry fly necks of very high quality. The advantage was it was done using cool water and it added natural shine to hackle fibers which was not achieved using standard dying methods.

Mark

http://www.amazon.com/Fly-Tying-Materia ... 0832903337

Re: pheasant tail soft hackle

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:04 am
by gingerdun
Hi Mark, and Cicvara,

This information about dying options is greatly appreciated.

Lance

Re: pheasant tail soft hackle

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:41 pm
by letumgo
Rasevic - I've been away for a few days, so I am a little late in commenting on this post. Thank you for taking the time to take photos of the individual tying steps. I find this very useful/helpful. This is another excellent fishing pattern. Thank you for sharing.

Re: pheasant tail soft hackle

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:10 pm
by NJpatbee
Great fly and a bit of an eye opener for me. I have not used snowshoe hare for the thorax, but it looks great. I suspect a fur and "Ice" dubbing blend in a complementary color would also work well.

Re: pheasant tail soft hackle

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:16 pm
by DUBBN
NJpatbee wrote:Great fly and a bit of an eye opener for me. I have not used snowshoe hare for the thorax, but it looks great. I suspect a fur and "Ice" dubbing blend in a complementary color would also work well.

I agree. Since I do not have Snowshoe I too have used a "fur and Ice" dubbing blend. Now if I could just get to the river to try it out.