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produce. Roscoe was tough. Every catch was absolutely earned and we tried everything from (speaking for myself) leeches to hoppers. The most success I had was a #14 partridge and hare, but you couldn't Ching on anything. The Green Drakes were on, the March Browns were much larger (#12's+) and more robust. We also got into some Iso's near the end of the week. The naturals were beefy (except the PMD's and sulphurs). Skimpy to juicy, I couldn't dial it in, especially with so much food on/in the water and fish that weren't eating much. Maybe some #10 Stewart Spiders would have moved a couple. Most of mine were #16 and smaller. Anyone fish large scale skimpy flies?

I did have a great time with the spiders on a smaller stream with Ruard and Carl one day. Those trout we opportunistic and fun. I love small water like that. I'll post some pics when I'm home later.

Thanks again for the comments.

dub-ya, Howdy;

Having seen the pix of Lance catching his fish, that chunk of water
looks like it would have been perfect to wet these flies in.

hank

Hank, that image isn't a good representation. There were riffles, runs and pocket water to be fished, but that water actually settles down to form a nice run with a beautiful soft edge about 10' to the bank. It was that transition that produced.

I didn't know nude photos were allowed on this site.

Those certainly are dressed lightly. Great simplistic patterns but quite buggy in appearance. I also really like the last of the bunch, but I am sure they will do great dancing on the water for you.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh Looks like it's on a fly on a hollywood diet ololo have you fished it yet?

William, I really like those flies. Have you fished any of them?

I've tied just a very few flies following the same basic idea (copying a Roy Christie "low water parody", which I thought I had a picture of but now cannot find). For some reason I don't seem to ever fish them, though.

CM_Stewart wrote:William, I really like those flies. Have you fished any of them?

I've tied just a very few flies following the same basic idea (copying a Roy Christie "low water parody", which I thought I had a picture of but now cannot find). For some reason I don't seem to ever fish them, though.

Chris, when you're killing with the fly in the line it's sometimes tough to give it up. I have fished very similar patterns, but not these in particular yet. I do fish lots of north country spiders, some in tummel proportions, so is not much of a stretch and the grizzly spider is not much different from some of my other Stewart spiders. I hope to give these a drift tomorrow if conditions call for it.

Check out the killer bug thread in the cabin. Some of your yarn is put in use.

W

Will, these are just spectacular. I've been trying to tie some flies sparse as of late too but, this just takes the cake. The use of blackbird looks is brilliant. Good thing crow season opens on the first!

I have no doubt after seeing John Shaner's collection, my tying will shift a bit.

William,

When you find the time, would you please elaborate ein wenig on this? To me, these flies shows passion. I have deliberately been overdressing a few flies lately, with the intention to try how they fish compared to sparser ones. They are caddis pupa patterns (turmeric cat's underfur and two turns of full woodcock hackle). I will try them along with comparable skinny flies. Since they will fish att different depths due to floating/sinking properties it will be difficult to draw any conclusions - at least for me. Some people are able to draw conclusions out of nothing. I lack that capacity.

dd

daringduffer wrote:

I have no doubt after seeing John Shaner's collection, my tying will shift a bit.

William,

When you find the time, would you please elaborate ein wenig on this? To me, these flies shows passion. I have deliberately been overdressing a few flies lately, with the intention to try how they fish compared to sparser ones. They are caddis pupa patterns (turmeric cat's underfur and two turns of full woodcock hackle). I will try them along with comparable skinny flies. Since they will fish att different depths due to floating/sinking properties it will be difficult to draw any conclusions - at least for me. Some people are able to draw conclusions out of nothing. I lack that capacity.

dd

Stefan, my comment about John's collection was only was we've all seen in the color plates and pics of historic flies tied with longer hackles and different types of hackles for different behaviors. I haven't had any issues with effectiveness using the flies I've tied over the past several years, but getting to see so many vintage flies and images with their hackles standing perpendicular to the shank for even forward a bit, and with lengths that extend well beyond the hook bend, I'll probably add some of these to my boxes as well, just for comparison sake. Their must be something to the proportions used when such attention to detail was given to every other aspect of the designs. Just something else to fool around with.

I didn't have any luck with the skimpy flies yesterday (primrose and honey dun Stewarts spider) , but it could have had everything to do with the conditions. Nothing worked well, so I wouldn't make any conclusions based on yesterday's outing either.

w