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Re: Sparse Dressing on large hooks discussion
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:24 pm
by Soft-hackle
Hank, Michael,
Wiggle nymphs have been around for a long time. I recall seeing them back in the 70s if I'm not mistaken. Some nymphs ARE very good swimmers, as Ray has shown us. Isonychia is one, and I'm sure some Wingless Wet Wigglers would probably be murder.
Mark
Re: Sparse Dressing on large hooks discussion
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:40 pm
by hankaye
Soft-hackle, Re-Howdy;
Wasn't my contention that they couldn't, merely surmising that when it comes to taking a ride in the
washing machine they would most likely do a, for lack of a better term, “Tuck and roll” thus protecting the vital areas
and covering everything with the exoskeletal covering. So, if it were an #18 or smaller it would appear as a dark dot.
That’s all.
Of course the opinion expressed is soley that of the writer, please supply your own grain of salt.
hank
Re: Sparse Dressing on large hooks discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:16 am
by redietz
Getting off the subject of "wiggle" (isn't that what the soft hackle is already giving us?) and going back to body length, I think many of our flies already too long of body. Turn over a caddis fly sometime and check out how long the body is compared to the wing. And for a ephemerid, the "body" really only needs to represent the thorax area; the hook can fill in for the rest.
Re: Sparse Dressing on large hooks discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:29 am
by DNicolson
This has been a very interesting topic, I have been sitting on the side lines just reading all the viewpoints.
Great stuff!! Keep it up. You are helping me to form some ideas.
Re: Sparse Dressing on large hooks discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:11 am
by Otter
Indeed Donald, some interesting views.
It would appear that no one has a very solid , stand up in court type of opinion on this - and that is the way it probably should be in so far as we probably fish different styles , in different ways on different types of water for various types of trout and various types of hatches.
It really is one discussion that leaves you feeling that you either choose to ignore it as a non issue and happily fish both styles confidently.
or choose to figure out for yourself whether or not one style is more effective than another or whether it is a case one style for one type of water or situation or hatch type and the other style for another type of water or situation or hatch type.
Is it any wonder society in general considers us a half mad but harmless bunch

Re: Sparse Dressing on large hooks discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:41 am
by michaelgmcgraw
Hi Mark,
I have heard of and seen wiggle nymphs-jointed body flies, at the time I was Hmmming about them I had a comical picture in
my mind of a jointed body prtrg & green

Re: Sparse Dressing on large hooks discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:57 am
by CreationBear
Does anyone else think this discussion would make the basis of one of Gary Larson's "Farside" caroons? "Gordon was just happy catching fish. Then, one day, he bought a kick seine and a blender."
Re: Sparse Dressing on large hooks discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:47 am
by tie2fish
CreationBear wrote:Does anyone else think this discussion would make the basis of one of Gary Larson's "Farside" caroons? "Gordon was just happy catching fish. Then, one day, he bought a kick seine and a blender."
Wonderful!

Re: Sparse Dressing on large hooks discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:49 am
by hankaye
cb, Howdy;
you funny...................................
hank
Re: Sparse Dressing on large hooks discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:54 am
by William Anderson
Otter wrote:Is it any wonder society in general considers us a half mad but harmless bunch

Otter, did you mean flyfishermen or the Irish? (head down...grinning)
CB, that is very funny. A perfect conclusion.
w